Comprehensive EMDR Session Debrief

Kelly O'Horo, EMDR Facilitator and Approved Consultant and Founder of Infinite Healing and Wellness, and Jaime Castillo, EMDR Approved Consultant in Training, Founder of Find Your Shine Therapy, discuss the Comprehensive EMDR Therapy Session demonstrated in their first video.


Jaime describes her experience as the client regarding EMDR 2.0 strategies used. Kelly describes her experience as the therapist in this session. The purpose of this video is to share for both clients and therapists how an EMDR Therapy session might be experienced from both perspectives.


Kelly O'Horo:


Hi there. I'm Kelly O'Horo. I'm the founder of Infinite Healing and Wellness. I am an EMDR facilitator, approved consultant, and certified EMDR therapist. I'm also a Daring Way facilitator for Brene Brown's research and content. And I'm sitting here with Jamie Castillo.


Jaime Castillo:


Hi there, I'm Jamie, and I'm the founder and clinical director of Find Your Shine Therapy in Tempe. I'm also an EMDR certified therapist, and an approved consultant in training. And Kelly and I are here today to debrief our EMDR video that we've recorded.


Kelly O'Horo:


So the purpose of this video is to debrief the EMDR therapy session that Jamie and I recorded, because we want clients who want to pursue EMDR therapy, to have something they can look at and have an experience of, so that they're not going in so cold. It's such a nerve wracking experience anyway, to go to therapy, and EMDR therapy is super different and weird. So we wanted to make sure we have a good illustration of what it should look like, and we could talk a little bit to you about what it also feels like. So we're just going to jump right in.


Jaime Castillo:


Yeah.


Kelly O'Horo:


So Jamie, how was your experience as the client for this EMDR therapy session that we recorded?


Jaime Castillo:


Yeah. So I have to be honest, it was super weird.


Kelly O'Horo:


It really is. It really is.


Jaime Castillo:


Yeah. My background is as a therapist, as I mentioned. I have been an EMDR client before, so that wasn't new to me, but this was the first time you and I have worked in this kind of context before.


Kelly O'Horo:


Right. Right.


Jaime Castillo:


I worked on something that's real in my life, and has some real emotion tied to it. It was a great experience, everything. I was totally genuine throughout the entire thing, so everything that you saw was real, and it was pretty vulnerable for me.


Kelly O'Horo:


Yeah.


Jaime Castillo:


Especially, it brings up a lot of painful stuff, and experiencing that with somebody else in the room can feel vulnerable, but also, being filmed and knowing that others are going to see it, feels a little bit vulnerable, as well.


Kelly O'Horo:


Right. We're all our own greatest critics, all people are so critical of themselves, and coming at this from a professional lens typically, to see that kind of vulnerability that you showed us, I just thought it was so incredibly brave, and so awesome of you to do that, because there's just not a lot of good videos out there that really show the truth about what it looks like. I just really commend you. Our clients are going to see this, and it's really brave to get in the arena like that. I can't, come on, she's awesome. It's just really awesome.


Kelly O'Horo:


As a therapist, I found that I'm so much more natural in the flow when I'm with a client. But again, with that video component, as we re-watched, we both were like, "Oh my gosh, I did this wrong, and I said that wrong." It definitely, I think, is an interesting lens to look at, this really authentic, natural experience, but with that learning lens, and that maybe critical eye I looked at my position as a critical position, like here's where I could have improved.


Kelly O'Horo:


But I just thought you were, I mean, such a... A perfect training video, if it goes well, this is what it should look like.


Jaime Castillo:


Yeah. I really appreciate that. And I have to say Kelly, that while you may have saw things in there that you would've done differently, it really, it brings home the importance of client and the